CREATING DISCIPLINE, TRUSTING THE PROCESS AND BUILDING A DREAM LIFE: A CONVERSATION WITH THE MIKAYLA JAI

Join me,  as we navigate the inspiring journey of Mikayla Jai, who went from rock bottom to living her dreams, and managed to turn her life and fortunes around. The Mikayla Jai, a spiritual education company founder, shares the tale of her spiritual awakening and the disciplined path she took to manifest her biggest dreams. We chat about her transformative story, the importance of having a long-term vision, and the significance of trusting the process of manifesting.

We explore the journey of Mikayla Jai and how it all started in 2018, when she first embarked on her path to manifest her dream life. We dig into the intricacies of discipline, certainty, trusting energies, and divine guidance in manifesting big goals and the role her spiritual education company has played in changing the lives of many. We also discuss the importance of being mindful of your intentions when manifesting and why some things may not remain if they are not in alignment with your truest intentions.

In the final stretch of our chat, we journey through the robust phase of identity shifts and desires, focusing on how monumental life changes like marriage can influence one's goals and identity. Mikayla opens up about her experience of getting married and how it altered her persona and objectives. Wrapping up the conversation, we highlight the power of choice and the significance of adopting a positive mindset.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 1:25

Hello, so welcome back to Impire Thyself podcast. I'm your host, hannah Garner, and, as you've already heard in the intro, I am joined by the Mikaela J, and I am so excited, as I mentioned in in the initial intro, because this is a full circle moment for me. It's been a long time since I've actually been in her world in the podcast on her Instagram, and I can't wait to dive in. Today we're going to be looking at a few different topics, or the juicy topics around discipline, certainty and the trust, energies, divine guidance and manifesting big goals. They're all definitely intertwined with each other. So welcome, mikaela. I'm so excited to dive into today.

Speaker 2: 2:06

Thanks for having me. I'm so excited.

Speaker 1: 2:09

I know so for your kind of background, because you won't have heard the intro necessarily straight the way I've been following you since the College days, since the beginning of time. Yeah, literally, which is why I say it's a full circle moment. And and one of my friends actually was introduced me to you, um, on the podcast. You were the first podcast I ever listened to, so I know I didn't even know what podcasts were then. Yeah, now that I've like got you on it and you're on my podcast, I'm like what the heck?

Speaker 2: 2:42

It really is full circle. Oh, that makes me so happy.

Speaker 1: 2:46

Yeah. So I think just for the purposes, because, although I know who you are, I would love for the listeners to get to know you and your journey and like what that really looks like, because we're talking like 2018, when you first started the podcast yeah, the manifesting money queen and all of those things. So what does what does your journey look like? Because obviously it's been. You know we're in 2023 now.

Speaker 2: 3:07

Yeah, it's been a long time. Oh my gosh, I'm like, wow, august is going to be my fifth year in business, which is crazy. So hello to everybody who I don't know it doesn't know me yet I'm mackayla. I have a spiritual education company that we've established. I've been running for five years now and my journey really looked like. It looked so different at the beginning.

Speaker 2: 3:29

I was in college before I started my business and I was studying fashion in french, because I always thought that I was going to run like fashion social media accounts for like the luxury brand. So I was studying french because I fully intended to get my master's degree in paris and like live there and work at some of these like luxury house headquarters, and so my after my first year of college, I went on a study abroad trip to france for the summer which completely changed my life. I had my huge spiritual awakening there and I had been at like a rock bottom before going and I remember thinking like this has got to stop, like I can't keep going on feeling this way all of the time, and so I made a commitment when I studied abroad. I didn't know a single person going, no one knew me, and so I was like, okay, I'm just gonna show up as this girl that I've always wanted to be. I'm gonna be super positive, I'm gonna be super fun, I'm gonna be really friendly, like I'm gonna be friends with everybody and there's gonna be no drama and I that was my intention and that's exactly what I did for those six weeks. And you know, building a habit takes 28 days. So when you're like six weeks in, this is just who you are.

Speaker 2: 4:36

And when I came back to the states, I had completely changed my mindset, changed how I was, and I started to really deep dive Into some of these things I had been doing abroad, which was like the positivity.

Speaker 2: 4:48

I was doing a lot of journaling, and that's why I stumbled upon manifestation. And once I like deep dove into manifestation. That took me about nine months and I had a moment where I was looking at myself in the mirror and I was like I have to teach this, because this completely changed my life. Like I had a really rough upbringing, I have a really messy family life and I was like, okay, so if I can go from literally nothing to like being the happiest I have ever been, just by changing my mind, I can't keep that to myself, and so I launched the podcast, I launched my business, and now I've been running my education company for a long time and I've changed so many lives, which has been the most rewarding thing, because I know how impactful this work is and we get to all of our goals so much faster, which is always what I want for the people in my world, whether those are clients, podcast listeners, my followers, etc.

Speaker 1: 5:43

Yeah, I love that and I think what's so powerful and obviously, those who might not have followed your journey, like I have I've seen you at each new level and what that's looked like, and one of the things I do really love about you in particular is you call yourself like the bougie spiritual bff.

Speaker 1: 5:59

Yeah, and to me that's really important because I think often, like you were doing the spirituality and sharing manifestation online before, it was really like popular, like it is, and like it was one of those things whereby, as well, historically, we look at spirituality and people often, um, feel like they can't be spiritual and have like material goods and like enjoy luxuries in life.

Speaker 1: 6:23

You're the complete opposite of that and I think that's what attracted me to you, because I was like Look, I like the finer things in life, but I also want to know that my inner world is, you know, peaceful and I I'm the highest version of myself in every moment, but I don't want to have to also be like, oh, I can't have money or I can't have this, which is what a lot of the spiritual world was teaching and still does have this kind of like Conditioning around, I find. So how was that for you? Before we dive into kind of like the other topics, like how did you set yourself up to be like? I'm going to be spiritual, but I want to make sure that I am this like bougie, um, kind of bff for everybody.

Speaker 2: 7:03

Yeah, I've just always been bougie and I think it's especially because of the background of wanting to work in fashion. It was just something I really appreciate it. And I remember being younger because I was the person who was like I'm gonna work in fashion my entire childhood. You know people are like, oh, I want to grow up and be this, and it like changes 10 times before you're like 15.

Speaker 2: 7:21

Mine was always the One thing and I remember telling my friends in elementary school Like I love fashion because it's such an expression Of like who you are, of your personality, of your individualism, and so I think for that. Like clothes have always spoken to me and when we want to be this higher version of ourselves, we can dress like it and that really helps us get into the energy. And then when you Dive into like the luxury side of things luxury fabrics, luxury craftsmanship there's so much time, love and attention Going into every single one of those things. And now it's cool watching the fashion industry transition into more sustainable things too, because, again, another level of intention and love, and so for me, I was like I am not going to compromise any part of myself, it's just going to continue to add on and, if anything, I appreciate all the luxury things even more. But it's so interesting because in spirituality, like you said, I was in it before it was like cool and chic and normal.

Speaker 2: 8:19

It's like everybody was saying that that was an egotistical thing and I was very much so like no, it's not, it's an expression of my personality and it's only egotistical if it's coming from ego and that's the biggest difference. My love for fashion, it was coming from love. My love for luxury goods was coming from love and also knowing how those experiences make me feel. I remember for the first like while I was in college running my business, I was driving like a Ford fusion and I had the car paid off and I loved it, but it wasn't next level. And so I remember the day that I decided I wanted to get my tesla, I was like that is next level, that feels Expansive, and it's not because like, oh yeah, I drive this really cool, new, like spaceship car, like it was, because I wanted to feel that next little boss vibes and I knew that environment would infuse that for me. So it always comes down to your intention and I think I've been one of the people who could see that from the beginning.

Speaker 1: 9:20

Yeah, 100%, and I think that's where people get lost, because there are people who desire things or think they desire things Because that's what they see others. Sharing is like a version of success, and that's one of the things about the podcast that I, in my particular podcast, I really like to tap into is finding out what, what is you and what you desire in this life, and that's going to look different to everybody. I'm very much like you. I love like things that look aesthetically pleasing, like my glasses and what I drink out of, like the smallest details are so important to me but to others mean nothing and their version might be smells or it might be certain, like treatments that they get.

Speaker 1: 9:59

Whatever it is, and I think, yeah, fusing together, like you say, what your personality is with the spiritual side is what really opened my eyes to manifesting in a new, in a new light. And I remember the Tesla journey because I just, you know, sharing, because you had quite a few obstacles to get there 1000% and just like racking my brain since you mentioned that, because obviously I know you've since then got your next dream car. So, yeah, so just going back to the Tesla, but obviously each stage of your journey, you know your growth's been incredible and you've obviously had to have a lot of discipline. And you know we said we were going to talk about this, but I'd love to know, with that particular area, what is discipline to you? But also, how has that evolved on your own journey? Because I can't imagine that it looks the same as it did when you first started as to in this exact moment.

Speaker 2: 10:51

Yeah, it always evolves. So discipline to me is the willingness to continue to show up when you don't feel like it, right, like there's all day. We all have days when we don't want to do it, we don't feel like it, we don't have the energy. There are circumstances in our life that are just fighting against us, taking all of our energy. But you show up anyways because it's important enough to you and because you have a long term vision around this, and discipline is a muscle we have to build. And so it absolutely looks different for me, and even like I think about this in terms of professional athletes like they have crazy discipline to be like in the gym every single day, at practices all the time. Like basketball players have games like three times a week sometimes. That is crazy levels of discipline because they see the vision and because they see what they're doing and how it impacts and entertains other people. And so I really adapt that in my life with my manifestations in my business, and I think in my business, how my discipline has changed is discipline around my mindset, which is interesting.

Speaker 2: 11:54

I have always been consistent from the beginning. I always have something to say on Instagram. I always have something to talk about all the podcasts. Showing up has been very easy for me and I think where things have changed with my mindset was I was more positive and more disciplined in the positive thinking. So when I was growing my podcast like even the months that it looked like it wasn't growing I remember my first few months I signed up with a business coach and she asked my downloads were? And I was like this month I got 30 downloads and I was so proud and she was like what the fuck?

Speaker 2: 12:28

like you need to get a lot more than that, but I was so proud of it. And then the months where I was like, oh, I only have 50. Okay, now it's back down to 30, but you keep going anyways. Now I can push through and keep going with a mindset of it's growing and it's working, and it's always growing and it's always working. And that has been a big difference for me. And then in my, with my personal life, my manifestation journey, I have just seen over the years how a lot of manifestations don't work out the way we think they do, like we always have this plan and it never goes to the plan. And so now my discipline is knowing that when every door is getting shut in my face just like it was when I was getting my Tesla and like so many other things that I could keep going because one door shuts in, a window opens and I'm always willing to look for the open window.

Speaker 1: 13:19

Yeah, and I think when you yeah, a lot of people shut off, like you say, the manifestation piece too early because they don't, it doesn't look like the expected way. They they thought it was going to come in, and I've been guilty of this in myself in the past and I'm very much more open to okay. I'm open to the unexpected, as long as the the outcome in terms of what I desire comes to me. How that happens doesn't have to be so linear anymore. Yeah, that's really quite hard, especially if you've never experienced it before.

Speaker 1: 13:52

Once you had a few like bigger manifestations or things that happen where you're like I can't even explain how XYZ happened, but I kept the end goal in my mind. Then you start building a bit of that trust. Then you start building a bit more like okay, I can play with this, but when it's new to you and you've not done that, obviously there's a lot of uncertainty and there's a lot of, you know, trust issues around that and then people often give up or think, well, it's not happened this way, so it's not going to happen. So how do you, or what do you use? What tools, what rituals, what kind of things do you use that are going to help people thinking I know I want this, but it's not working right now how I see it like, but I want to keep trusting. What would you recommend?

Speaker 2: 14:36

Yeah, I think it's so important to keep that long term vision in mind, because if you are so committed to that long term vision, it doesn't matter what's getting in your way. You're going to keep going. I remember thinking that about my business while I was in college. I had this vision board on my wall that was like make $50,000, get a range over, like go to France, do all these things, and there were so many months that I felt like, oh my God, this isn't happening and it's not coming together. But it's always a choice, you know, I think that choices is a big conversation. Not a lot of people are considering enough that, like, everything is just one choice away. So when you're building this discipline, and maybe you don't have these big manifestations under your belt, you have to choose to keep going. And the days that you don't want to choose, you have to ask yourself, well, how badly do I want it, how committed am I to this vision? And that's where I think things like the vision boards kick in. And visualization, because it keeps you in that energy and reminds you what you're going after day in and day out.

Speaker 2: 15:37

So something that I've been struggling with a lot this year has actually been my health, and so that really has helped me build discipline is remembering that, like this isn't something that is fixed overnight. Oftentimes I was really sick, falling off for like five months, and when I finally got through that hump I was like, okay, I am taking health shots, I'm ordering vitamins, we are drinking water, like we're doing all of the things. But I also know I have to be consistent with taking my vitamins, or that's not going to do anything for my health. That's not going to do anything for me on the inside out. And so, being on that journey and now I've been a couple months out of it, doing all these things very consistently to take care of myself, my vitamins, my nightly magnesium and stuff I know the long term effects and it's starting to come into play. And so if you're somebody who's developing discipline, look at like what areas of life require time to build. It's going to be things like what wellness habits. It's going to be things like a workout plan. I think they say with fitness, it takes like eight weeks to see a difference. In 12 weeks for somebody else to see a difference in you. It's like that takes time.

Speaker 2: 16:45

And when we come to our manifestations and our desires. Of course we want it now, now, now, now, now we have these goals, we want it now. It's exciting when we're doing our visualization, but some things just take time and we have to be willing to see it through. And one thing that I love, on like a shadow work note, it's like if you're not willing to see it through, if you want it now, if you want it only for an instant gratification, it's like what was your intention behind the desire?

Speaker 2: 17:10

If you're not willing to wait it out, what was the original intention? Was it to show off something? Was it to feel better about yourself? Like I was listening to something the other day and this person was talking about buying a car just to like show off of, like oh, all the people that used to make fun of me in high school, I'm like gonna buy this car. I'm like that's not the right intention. The intention to be like oh, I want to elevate. I'm so excited about this new car, I'm so excited to celebrate my success, I'm gonna buy a new car. So it's it's intentions, it's long term vision, it's recognizing some areas of our life take time to build and being willing to do that.

Speaker 1: 17:46

Yeah, 100%, and I think as well. What's interesting about that is the manifestations where maybe in the past I've probably had more ego behind it or more, like you say, like I wanted it for validation or to you know, fit in or what I thought would give me, you know, the vision of success. Most of those things haven't stuck around for me Like they. They've disappeared or they were hard to keep hold of. Probably that was because they weren't truly aligned to what I desired. And do you find, like have you experienced that whereby you know, if you have in the past tried to go for things that aren't aligned with your purest intentions, that maybe they haven't had the longevity Like? Do you think that they go like coincide?

Speaker 2: 18:32

100%. And I've noticed it more for myself in like terms of behaviors, where I'll go through a phase that be like, okay, I'm gonna like go out all the time and not necessarily like partying, but it's like, okay, I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna like I'm gonna meet up with friends like five times a week and then on the weekends we're like gonna grab drinks and then we're gonna dress up and take photos here and then. But that's just not super aligned with me. Like I'm an introverted extrovert, like I really recharge like by myself. And so I'm like why am I trying to be something that I'm not like?

Speaker 2: 19:04

Of course I love my friends, I love my people and I want to talk to them, but I know it's better for me to be like waste-oning my friends during the week and hang out on the weekend or have like one coffee date during the week, and so those phases where I've really pushed myself into selling that isn't fully aligned. I'm just like, oh, I have to look like I have friends. I have to look like I can do all these fun things. I get really fucking burnt out. And so those types of that's why our intentions are so powerful and so important, because if you're not saying true to you, it's gonna feel a lot harder. If you're not saying true to you, you're gonna burn out. Or that's where you start to experience these like half manifestations, where it's half of what you want but it's not fully there, because your higher self knows that's not actually the path that you're supposed to be on.

Speaker 1: 19:48

Yeah, I think that. Yeah, now you mentioned about habits. I think that is definitely true to me. Like when I'm not doing it from the best place, those habits or those things that I'm trying to do don't stick around for long and actually, looking back, they've always it's always been something that I've really I thought I really wanted. But then when the habit stops or I look back at it, I'm like I don't even know why I was doing that. I actually didn't want that whatsoever. Like I think I was just trying to do that because that's what a successful person does or you know, you've read a book on or that's what this person's doing that you're trying to imitate.

Speaker 1: 20:25

And I think, whilst it's good to take inspiration from people, one thing I have learned on this journey myself is that you really have to get intentional with who you are and what you desire. And if you don't know your values, you don't know your beliefs which obviously can always evolve then you're going to really struggle to get anything that you want because you don't actually know if that's what you truly desire. So when you're looking at your kind of health issues that you've had more recently and things like that, have you found it difficult to like trust, the outcome and what's going to happen and, you know, worrying, because obviously you know your health is everything I've experienced. I helped you a few years ago. That really set me back and you know it really opened your eyes to like wow, when people say health is wealth, like that it's not a lighthearted statement, like it is really true.

Speaker 1: 21:15

But you know, when you've got your own business and you've got your podcasts, with all these downloads and all these things going on whilst also trying to support your health and your wellness in the best way, was that a difficult time to like trust? Okay, the universe has got me right now. You know my business is supported, I'm supported, everything's going to work out. Whilst I'm trying to figure that out, or was it? Was it harder than you expected, considering that you have got so many tools at your disposal that you're so well-practiced with?

Speaker 2: 21:43

Right, oh my gosh, it was so hard and I think that's always a great reminder that, like we're all going through something. Even somebody you think is like and see is so successful. We all have our struggles. It was really hard, Like I remember specifically like one of the worst months. I was basically bedridden for like almost three weeks and that was horrible.

Speaker 2: 22:04

Plus, I value like movement so much, such a part of my energy practice, my manifestation practice, because I just feel so embodied in my next level, moving my body, whether it's hitting like a new PR at the gym or just doing walking visualizations, all of these things. So having that ability stripped away like it's really difficult on your mindset and it comes back to this disciplined muscle that really carried me through of like man. I might be in a dark place right now because my health is rough and because I can't do the things that I want. You know we especially be set out in the new year with like this vision for the year. I'm like I haven't gotten to do anything. I've been in bed the whole time, but it really forced me to focus on what are like the most important tasks that I need to do. How can I show up in the best way possible in my current state. And how can I be even more grateful? Like I feel like gratitude really pulled me through and I am like super grateful that, since I've been in my business for a while, it's like I am supported in different ways, that I wasn't in the beginning and so that was helpful, but all of it was so hard.

Speaker 2: 23:10

And it's those moments that test your discipline and test who you truly are and what your mindset is like. Because I would get better for like two weeks. I'd be like, okay, this is going good, this is going good. I would even talk to my mentor and be like I'm feeling good, I'm ready to pick up the pace and get sick again. And I'd be like, oh my gosh, are you serious? Like it's so easy to get down. But as long as you can pick up your action in the best way you can do in those moments, that's all that's required of you. And it's not always going to feel good and it's not going to be your 100% max, but we also have to be patient with ourselves and be patient with our lives.

Speaker 1: 23:45

Yeah, and have you come out of it? I don't know yet, because sometimes when you're in the journey still and you're in you know you're still in the trenches of overcoming things. You don't always know what the lessons are, but have you like picked up any lessons or were like, oh right, I went through this because I needed to fit to, for example, learn how to let go more or whatever it was Right? Are you, are you at that stage yet? Or are you still like trying to just make sure that you stay on this health and and wellness and and wait, and you're waiting for that. Do you know what I mean? Like, sometimes you're still in the trenches and you're not quite sure what my lesson is yet.

Speaker 2: 24:20

Right. I feel like I've definitely come out on the other side knowing when my lessons were, and even in it I was like, yeah, I can see what this is wanting to teach me. It was definitely teaching me slow down. I'm a Capricorn, I love what I do for work, so I can just go, go, go, go go and, like I have my spiritual education company, I also have a content creation business, so there's a lot of things going on all of the time and it's hard for me to sit things down and rest because I'm so excited about them. But your body needs rest, your mind needs rest. So it's teaching me to slow down.

Speaker 2: 24:53

And it was also a big decompress and release, because the year I had had prior was really difficult.

Speaker 2: 25:00

I was like moving for five months. I had like gone through a really horrible abusive breakup earlier in the year, last year, and there was just like so many things in my body felt like okay, now we're in a place where we can let go and release all of this. And it literally had to happen through a physical way, because that's a whole other piece is like when we're not releasing things and working through hard experiences as we're going through them. They those energies, just to get like nestled up into your muscles and to your body. The energy doesn't just dissipate, it goes somewhere else, and so it caused me to get really sick, because then your immune system is compromised, and so it was like okay, you know, I'm releasing all these things that happened last year, I'm learning to rest and I'm really learning that when things are hard, I have to be looking at that shit as I'm going through it. You can't just avoid it and clean it up later, or you can, but you might get sick for like five months.

Speaker 1: 25:53

So lesson learned there, yeah 100% and I, yeah, more than ever now, the connection between you know, physical manifestation of ailments and illness, and how we deal with trauma and things in our body and our mind is so closely linked that I I just think, like you have to look at both the mindset and the somatic, the body stuff now, because if you don't do them both together, or at least give some time to both of them at different seasons, then you're going to really like get slapped in the face by by something that you've been ignoring. And I know that, I've experienced that, and I know many of my listeners have experienced that, and in those moments, like I know we, we kind of we're going to touch upon divine guidance. Do you, do you use that? Do you look for divine guidance during those like hard times, or all of the time, or what does that look like for you? How did that kind of show up as you were going through this? You know, really tough time.

Speaker 2: 26:51

I love that question. Divine guidance is so important in my every single day. I always talk about this with my clients. My like number one question that I think about that I write in my journal is what would you have me do? Whether I'm thinking about something I'm going through, I'm thinking about an investment I want to make, what I want to launch next, like a new, like okay, a new fitness program, whatever anything. What would you have me do? Because I always want to feel connected to my spirit guides, to my higher self and with the best intentions when I'm making moves forward, especially action steps, because it's like we do all the mindset work and all this energy work, which is very in like the fifth dimension. But if we want these 3D results and changes, we have to bring it back down, and so I always want to make sure that my 3D actions are super aligned. So, for me, in that time constant, what would you have me do today? Like, with my limited amounts of energy, what would you have me do? What would you have me post? Where would you have me put my energy Cause, especially being sick? Like you have such a little energy.

Speaker 2: 27:54

There were days where I was like I felt so like nauseated. I'm like I can't even look at my phone and I work on my phone. So there would be weeks where it's like, okay, I'm getting out of podcast episode, I'm doing a couple Instagram posts and like that's the energy I need to put out this week, and I'm getting on my calls and I'm doing what I have to do and moving through it. And that comes with a lot of trust. You know, especially when we're used to operating at 100% all the time, going and even above that, like going above and beyond and being of service for people, especially like when you're coaching and doing content.

Speaker 2: 28:28

It's all about showing up for your people. So it's really trusting that like, okay, I might come across, I'm doing this bare minimum right now, but people understand when you're going through something and I trust the universe and I trust this rest period and I trust this untangling of my life and that just has to be good enough. So divine guidance is just everything. I always ask that question what would you have me do? I'm constantly like pulling Oracle cards for answers on things. I'll think of a question and I'll pull a card and I'll see you like what am I not seeing here? What do I need to be doing next? It's something that's very wrapped into my life on a daily basis.

Speaker 1: 29:07

Yeah, I love that and I think it's something that people can definitely start tapping into and using for themselves if it's somewhere like to get started. But I you know obviously you're well-practiced in this. I use it. Questions very similar or I speak out. I speak out in my mind quite often and I'm very open now to receiving those downloads and being open to the nudges. But for some people, when they're first starting their journey or when they're kind of in maybe a bit of confusion and not necessarily in the like trusting phase, you can often miss the guidance, the divine guidance, because it can sometimes be so subtle, or it can be, it can't, it doesn't necessarily always make sense, and so people almost like put it to one side. So what would you recommend for those listening when you ask that question, either on journal or like out loud in your mind or whatever that is Like how? What would you then do with the information that comes through, or how would you expect to receive the information, just so that people can start actually utilizing those actions?

Speaker 2: 30:09

A hundred percent and it's only we have to be so open to, or else it is exactly you said, so easy to miss for me. When I like, write it in my journal and the I always tell people the first three to six things that come to your mind. Write them all down. They don't ever need to make sense. I'll have some that are like three action steps for work, and then it's like have a midday coffee break and go for a 10 minute walk. It'll be like super random things, but it's in those random moments that the divine alignments come up. It's like you pose, like, let's say, I go into a coffee shop, I post something and then somebody is there and then I'm like, oh, yeah, and then you have that connection. You never know when that's going to, where that's going to lead, right, like my husband and I went on a trip to Colorado in the fall and that had happened. We're like, oh, let's just go to this like different coffee shop, and one of my friends I had known online for years was there and I had never met her in person. And so it's so funny how, like, all of those random things on your list kind of play into the longterm, I think when we're asking these types of questions for guidance and we get those little nudges that don't make sense, we're like, oh well, like we'll ignore that because that doesn't really make sense. So like, oh, maybe I just thought of that, but we have to start taking our thoughts and these downloads as as genuine intuition, right?

Speaker 2: 31:25

I think when people are tapping into guidance and intuition, they second guess themselves a lot. They're like oh, was that a download? Was it a sign, or was it just like? I'm just hungry? So I was like go get a snack, you know, and it's. You have to trust yourself.

Speaker 2: 31:39

And so for me, what it really looks like, as I write down those three to six things, even if they don't make sense, and I start taking action on them right away, and it might be the smallest thing you know, yesterday was at the beach with my friend and she was talking about how she might want to move and she's like these are some places I'm thinking of and literally we're having this conversation in. A girl walks by with a sweatshirt that has the name of one of the cities we were talking about and I was like oh my God, did you see that girl sweatshirt? And she said no, because she's like not open to the signs, because she's so like, still in that resistance, hesitant state, and I'm like the universe is telling you it was. It was one foot in front of us on the beach, this girl's wearing this sweater, and I'm like wearing a sweater on the beach is just all so random, I'm like, but we have to take those signs and go for it.

Speaker 2: 32:24

So it's it's listening to all the things that come up, taking action on it, but also being open to receive those things. And that's the other half of it. It's like, if you're not used to having this guidance, this intuition, ask yourself, like, what are you afraid of opening up to? Because I think that's where we push it away. We're scared of the answers, we're scared of action, steps that will get us to our goal, which is so wild, but it's a very real thing.

Speaker 1: 32:50

Yeah, a hundred percent. And I know that I struggled to receive for a long time, you know, with conditioning and with trying to be this strong, independent woman and like proving a point, I have to do everything myself. And even and I realized, hold on a minute if I can't even receive like help on something so trivial, you're receiving channel is still blocked off and you have to open that up and even just like playing around with it, like allowing people to help me, you know, with my bags on the train, or something that normally I would have just said like, oh no, I'm a strong woman, I can do it myself. Yeah, I realized, hold on a minute, I'm still blocking that channel because I'm I'm sending a message to the universe of I don't want to receive that help. So then why is it going to send me help in other areas of my life? And when I had that like mic drop Maaman, I was like, oh, I wish somebody had told me this sooner.

Speaker 1: 33:39

And I started playing with it. And then the next thing you know you're like getting the free coffee, or you're getting you know a random stranger to do something, or you're getting a random job interview pop up or all these things, and it's like, oh okay, actually, half of it is not that you can't manifest is because you're shut off from receiving, and that was a big lesson for me. So when you're obviously you know your, your journey has been so crazy, like you've got the free scholarship to, to like college, I think, in America, you call it and then you've had the next dream car, which I think was your white Range Rover, right. And then you've like, if you, as I said, you might not follow my gaolers so you haven't seen, but she's like, manifested these amazing apartments and she's moved across the country and all of these things and obviously built a successful business, has a this podcast with like millions of downloads. So it's a lot of things.

Speaker 1: 34:33

Now, what now with the like? First, you know half of the year being quite challenging these next goals for you. What do they look like? Have they shifted? And how are you, I guess, re-energizing and re-preparing yourself, given that you've had to take some downtime? What does like getting prepared for the next lot of big goals. Look like for you.

Speaker 2: 34:54

Yeah, that's such a great question when I'm thinking about because, to think about the vision I set out for the year and it all went so left field. Yeah, it was like coming to terms with all of that and kind of how I started to prep for the second half of the year was a lot of released work, like doing some breath work. My best friend, I love doing breath work, so we would do some of those sessions and really leaning into this guidance of like, okay, that was like a slow down phase and now what? And just allowing myself to be okay with that and it has shifted my goals a lot, because now I think about the second half of the year, I'm like, okay, I'm ready to enter like a wellness girly era, like I cannot have that sick thing happen again. That was brutal. And so it's all of the experiences that we go through constantly shape our next goals and our next desires, which has also been interesting on a mindset side of things, because it's like, oh, some of these things I thought I cared a lot about, that I thought I really set out to do this year aren't as important to me as I thought. Now the priorities shift.

Speaker 2: 35:52

I'm a big person at looking at priorities, and so for me, it was coming to terms with everything looking at okay, if I want to be entering, like this wellness era where I'm really taking care of myself, what does that look like? So it's a new vision board, it's new routines, and one of my favorite exercises for figuring this out is like what would be a dream like day in the life of my next level self. Like a normal last day, like we all have the days of like yeah, I'm flying the Maldives with my friends. Like, yes, of course, but what would be like a normal, regular day at home for her? What's that routine look like? And identifying those pieces and starting to align things. It has looked like me wanting to shift how I do certain things in my business so I can focus more on the health side of things. I can spend more time getting treatments, making sure I'm resting more, have more like freedom and like I would say like luxury in my schedule, but like time freedom in my schedule, where things are more convenient and less stressed out, more nervous system regulation, and so it's really allowing myself to change the vision, which is uncomfortable at times and I think, especially if we tell people our goals. We're like, oh, we have to stick to it because I told somebody, but you're always allowed to change your mind.

Speaker 2: 37:05

So that's really what I've been doing to gearing up. It's like painting this new vision, releasing what I thought I wanted and accepting this new era. I mean even down to like with my goals this year. Like I got married this year and which is crazy and I never thought I was going to get married Like it was never. So many people like grew up like wanting to get married and have kids, whatever, like that was just never me, just always this like boss that was just traveling the world doing my thing, and so that was like a huge thing for me to adjust, like identity wise. Like oh my gosh, I never thought I'd be like the girl that got married, but that's my life now and it is something that I wanted, and so allowing yourself to change and adapt is really how I've been approaching shifting my goals for the second half of this year. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 37:48

I love that and yeah, I remember when you on your Instagram, when you announced it, because obviously it was kind of like down low, and then you just shed, all like I'm a wifey now and yeah, that's. You know it sounds like an easy thing to just share, but when it's not, like you say not something that you've been necessarily desiring or not even aware that that's something you desired, because you were so totally other goals or other things in that moment, to then sharing that, I know for myself. You know I've had quite a few shifts in the last kind of year whereby I'm like you know, actually, yes, I do, I do want to be this boss bitch and I want to have, you know, this freedom of lifestyle from a business, but at the same time, like I do actually want to be like the person who is the mother and, you know, looks after their children. You know I'm not yet but like the soft woman who can bake cakes and just like take time out with her kids and all of those things. And that was a bit of a head fuck for me, to be honest, because it's not the personality. Like, I'm great with kids but it's not what people saw me as. Oh, I even saw myself like I knew I was going to be the mum, but I thought possibly that it would be. You know, I was back to work really quickly, like doing all these things, whereas actually I'm like, no, I want to, no, thanks.

Speaker 1: 39:08

Yeah, I was like waking up with my kids and like going, and you know, taking them to the park and doing the baking, all of this stuff and that like that's quite a when it's such a monumental part of like your life trajectory, like having those rearrangements of like what you desire can be quite overwhelming and quite scary, because I had to keep asking myself am I desiring this because I'm seeing everybody else around me, because I'm like getting to 30 now, like doing the thing, or is it actually my true desire that's just finally coming to the, to the full point that I'm allowing to be feeling? And that was a really weird time to sit with because, especially when it's stuff like marriage or kids or more things that like are deemed like the things to do in society, I always struggled with those the most of like is this me or is this society? And I had to do a lot of like inner work with that.

Speaker 1: 40:01

Did you find like when you were going through, like obviously you know you weren't expecting to get married and it happened, you know, really swiftly, and it was like an amazing thing. Did you have to do like a bit of like checking in and being like is this conditioning or like what am I resisting? Or any of that kind of stuff? Come up for you.

Speaker 2: 40:19

Oh my gosh, it was such an identity like plot twist, Like this is the biggest plot twist of this century in my life. It really is a mind fuck, like that's just the best way to say it because we build these identities for what we are now, what we've been living, but also we build this future identity and it shifts both of those timelines and so it's like holy fuck, what is even happening. I think it was a bit easier of a transit Well, not not easy, but it was a simple transition for me, just because, like I was soon as I met my now husband, like I knew we were going to be getting married, like I remember like our third hangout and like getting this, almost like vision from the universe of like us getting married. So when that happened, I was like ooh, I am scared, that is unexpected. And like we met on like Tinder, I was like this is not what I was expecting, but here we are, you know, and so I had some time to like kind of prep with that. But also such an identity shift when we're dealing with that kind of thing. And because I was always the friend, I was like I'm never getting married, never getting married and my last relationship. So I was like I'm not getting married, do not propose to me like a very clear boundary. When I told my friends, they were like so happy for me. But they were also like, oh my gosh. And so it is really. It's so interesting and I remember that whole phase just being like whoa, I don't feel like myself, but not in a bad way.

Speaker 2: 41:42

I've been in a different way and I think the same thing about kind of like this soft being, like the softer side, the more feminine woman, is something that we've been saying a lot more, online for sure and so there's been times where I'm like, yeah, I want that.

Speaker 2: 41:56

And then I'm like, wait, do I want it because it's all over tick-tock and it looks pretty, or what does that look like? And it's really important for us to check in and identify what that's gonna look like for ourselves. I think everything we start to resonate with, or even when we feel these weird shifts in our identity, we're just being called into something outside of our comfort zone and it's up to us to sit there and be like, okay, this is different, this is new. What about this is resonating with me? What about this am I liking and how am I gonna incorporate that to my future timeline and this new identity I have, versus just taking what somebody is showing and Picking it for ourselves, because that goes back to even the fashion luxury side of things. Right, it's like, oh, am I doing it because everyone else is doing it, but we can take those moments to see what is it gonna look like for us as an individual. And that really helped me Kind of get through the identity shift.

Speaker 1: 42:47

Yeah, I love that because I think a lot of people have been having that, especially since COVID, and like lockdown especially. I think we're all going through a bit of identity crisis and like yeah, in our lives and our minds and, as I said, I know that's happened for me and I think one of the biggest things is like okay, I don't know how I'm gonna get to what I desire now and what that looks like anymore, because I was so like Trotting on a certain path before, but actually like how can I play into those energies? And for me, like I'm trying to tap into Because I'm not my my neck, I'm a Leo and like aries rising, like my natural, like energy is very masculine, do yeah, like high energy and but I do have a soft side and I do have like there's a very Spiritual side of me that when I'm in that zone, I see that softer side, I see that more feminine side, but it's not something that comes to the forefront. So I've had to tap into those like feelings and be like right, I might not be able to go like a hundred percent into that because it's so Abnormal the feeling for me, but actually in my days like I go back to being like okay, like, I want to tap into this feeling. What could I do today that maybe like helps me achieve that, even if it's just once. It doesn't have to be like all day. I don't have to completely shift who I am like and what I'm used to in this moment. A hundred and eighty degrees, but like, yeah, can I like, for example, take more time to like bake something, if that's what makes me feel feminine. Or can I like, yeah, be a bit slower, or, as I said, receive the help that maybe I wouldn't normally. You know, somebody offering to like make my life easier. Can I do those things? And that was the easiest way.

Speaker 1: 44:26

But I did really struggle with it and I think that's what we're all going through at the moment. And I do think the first six months of the year for most people although it might not have looked like your six months, I know I've struggled for the first six months of the year with other things, like the world just seems to be a lot of energies going around. So, before we round up the whole episode, I'd love to know, like, if people are in this place where they're like look I'm, you know, let's. I can't change what the first six months look like for me, but I want to change the next six months and I really want to tap into these new energies, these new intentions, these new visions, like what would be your top tips to like. Really start honing in on that so that they can, you know, have the best version of their next six months 100%.

Speaker 2: 45:13

I would say it comes back down to choice, how we mentioned that earlier of. You know, you're feeling like you're ready for the second half of the year to really kickstart. I like to call it like mid-year quantum leaping. Basically, it's like if you're ready for that, it's just a choice and you can choose every single day, in every single moment. Let's say you were in a bad mood, you're having like a shitty five minutes. Ten minutes later you decide alright, I'm letting you go and I'm being in a better mood. You have the power to do that. Does it come off unnatural sometimes? Yeah, but who cares? Like, if you want to be in a better mood, be in a better mood. And I think some people are always scared to do that because it's like, oh, I was just ranting to my friends, now I'm gonna be happy. It's like, yes, they want you to be happy. Everybody wants you to be going after these goals and making these changes that make you feel better about yourself. So it's choice for sure. Reminding yourself that all of the time it's also getting really clear on, like what you believe it's gonna take to get to these goals and look at what comes up for you. So paint this vision, like I'm really big about long-term vision. So figure out what, at the end of the year, in a perfect world, where would you be? What would that look like? What would you have accomplished?

Speaker 2: 46:23

And then we reverse, engineering your mindset not necessarily all of the action steps, but what do you think it's gonna take to get there and check in? Are some of these limiting beliefs, is that a limiting way of thinking of it? And then can you change that? Because there's some things we think it's gonna take of us that will end up holding us back Because we think, oh, this goal is gonna take x, y and z and I don't want to take that time away from my partner, I don't want to take that time away from my business. Well, what if that wasn't the truth and you could rework those beliefs to be more supportive and Conclusive to every area of your life? And then you just erased all of that Resistance that you were gonna feel in those next six months. Okay, so remember that it's choice.

Speaker 2: 47:04

At the end of the year, in a perfect World, where would you want to be? What do you think it's gonna take? And check in are these coming from love or fear? And flip around accordingly and then reminding yourself that it's okay to have days that you don't feel like it, but it's not okay to just sit and do nothing about that. It's like you have to identify. Okay, why do I not feel like doing this today? Am I just? Am I being tired? Do I not have the energy? Am I just being a little lazy today? Like me, honest with yourself, and how badly do I want it? And choose to get up and do something about it.

Speaker 2: 47:36

Anyways, and then the last thing I would say is really surround yourself with Everything that is going to support you to reaching those goals. So, for example, if you want to get more into your health and fitness, set out your vitamins, set out your pre-workout, set out your workout outfit in in advance, having set up for your success, you want to get more into journaling and visualization. Have your headphones next to your bed, wake up in the morning, pop in the headphones, do a meditation, wake up right about your dream, make things convenient for you to show up for your goals and Schedule in these things as well that are important to you and that's going to take you. So so far, and just remember that's like, even If you don't feel like you're getting support from people around you. You have Supporting energies in the universe wanting to guide you. So tap into your higher self, tap into your spirit guides and know that, like you, are always being guided and that you can trust that I.

Speaker 1: 48:33

Absolutely love that and I think that's such an amazing way to end, because I know that so many people are Wanting to do that and I think just having that sometimes like little pep talk from someone to be like you can do this, but you've got to choose is exactly what we need. So it's been an absolutely amazing Conversation and I can't wait for everybody to hear this. But I always love to ask my guests at the end one question and that crack right now. What is exciting you, or lighting you up, whether it be a material thing, something you're working on, like what is that? Because I love to find like and get inspiration from other people.

Speaker 2: 49:08

Oh, what is exciting me right now? Oh, my gosh. Well, I have this like big manifestation. That's super exciting. What I can't talk about yet, so I'm like ah, that is.

Speaker 2: 49:18

I think I will say like one thing that's really exciting to me is knowing that I'm entering into like a new era and a new phase of my life. Like I said, I'm like deciding on this wellness girly thing. I'm like newly married. There's all these exciting things happening and it's really painting a picture of a lifestyle that is exciting to me, where I am optimizing things, my business, so I can have more time freedom, but also be helping more people, and then I could be helping myself more, because I really think it like this is like a separate conversation, but in the business world, like what's really going to be winning is being of service to people and serving and serving and serving. But if I'm gonna be serving more, I have to take care of myself more, and so those two things are really exciting for me, because I'm like the more I Take myself further with my health and my wellness, the more I get to take things further with my people, whether they're clients or just my community, and that is really really exciting for me right now amazing.

Speaker 1: 50:13

Absolutely love that answer, and People are gonna want to know how to get into your energy, where to find you, how to connect. What's the best way to do that?

Speaker 2: 50:21

You can hang out with us over on my Instagram I'm at the mikaela J or my tiktok at the mikaela J and definitely tune into the podcast. I host the mindset magic and manifestation podcast on literally any platform you could possibly think of. Those are going to be so the best ways to connect with me, and I do have a free Facebook group. It's called minds of magic and manifestation and we're gonna be reviving our free Facebook group so you guys will be getting a lot more community, a lot of free lives and trainings and stuff. So if you're wanting that spiritual community, that'll be a really cool place for you to join us amazing.

Speaker 1: 50:56

I'll make sure it's all in the show notes. Thank you so much for joining me today. Thanks for having me.